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    Hi guys. Today I was spectating panda, when he did some weird prefire headshots. But when I started voteban and spectated him later on, he made some "mistakes" to hide his cheating like shoot people in the arms or looking the wrong way, maybe even turned cheat off for a few rounds.
    It was not the first time I thought he might be cheating. So I went to his profile, checked his groups and found this:



    So he's in a group called "cheetah" with 3 guys ( maybe all his banned smurfs ) that have already been banned for cheating. In the top url it says "not_actual_cheaters" which is remotely funny because they all cheat. Only DEBILS call themselves "haxx0r" or "cheetah".
    You don't end up in groups like that if you don't cheat. You don't want to be in such a group if you don`t cheat, it's bad for your reputation. Groups like this are for trolls with cheats.
    I know it's not 100% proof he is cheating right now, but if it was my server I would ban him just for being in the group.
    He sure loves cheaters, loves getting carried to whatever rank he is. But I'm pretty pretty sure he is using one or both of the following:
    - Wall hack
    - low fov aimbot

    I downloaded a demo but I can not watch it, it doesn't seem to load when I enter "playdemo auto-serv_07-010918-191031-de_inferno.dem" in console. I don't know how else to view demos from your server, maybe someone can explain it to me. I would really love to view the full demo from todays inferno but for now it won't work. It took me quite some time to register with google translate :]

    Have fun everyone! Cheaters beware!

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    Tried SHIFT + F2 to bring up the panel, then "load" to locate the demo?
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      Demo looks fine to me, nothing odd about it.
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        Thanks, it worked, also needed to get my mouse working in demo player. Seems a bit buggy.

        To be honest there's nothing too weird about the demo, but a good cheater is hard to spot. Most wallhackers don't chase their targets behind walls like the noobs do. Some of his shots look like silent aim. (hit although the crosshair points somewhere else)
        I played parts of the demo in 1/4 speed and around 8:10 - 8:20 he is shaking his mouse (fully flashed) and then aimed at the wall and then moved back onto his target. But this is not visible every time, just 3 out of like 10-15 times playing this same clip, maybe it's a bug in the demo player? After that, there's the kill in the ct base which I don't find very suspicious anymore after watching the demo, he jump peeks at around 8:30.

        The whole thing from 7:50 to 8:20 is very interesting. When he's standing on the wood pile, he fires some shots at the guys trying to enter banana from B and seems to be aware of the players moving around. Upon entering the site, he just shoots coffins twice and then doesn't check it again. Also he lands a funny headshot on me with his crosshair being quite far away from my head.
        16:44 - maybe a standard prefire spot, but he barely missed his target behind the wall and killed him shortly after, without worrying about me on the other side of mid or any possible terrorist from the stairs. He doesn't really check the right top of middle.
        23:40-24:00 Waiting in top of mid for a push, giving me yet another funny headshot in a quick movement from left to right. (maybe silent aim again?) When I got the headshot his crosshair is more than 15 degrees off target.
        There's really nothing exciting except for those few bits because after he got whispered by an admin or vip he seems to be slowing it down.

        What got me thinking is the steam group "cheetah" and the 3 guys with vac bans in it, panda being the only member of the group that isn't banned yet.

        Again, here's my nice collage I made with paint showing the group members and their vac bans.


        Do you really believe he is not cheating and a member of a cheater group?
        Did you ever hear the term legit hacking?
        Last edited by fowst; 10.01.2018, 00:12.

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        • #5
          (hit although the crosshair points somewhere else)
          I played parts of the demo in 1/4 speed and around 8:10 - 8:20 he is shaking his mouse (fully flashed) and then aimed at the wall and then moved back onto his target. But this is not visible every time, just 3 out of like 10-15 times playing this same clip, maybe it's a bug in the demo player? After that, there's the kill in the ct base which I don't find very suspicious anymore after watching the demo, he jump peeks at around 8:30.
          The 32 tick demos are notorious for this, watch any demo of anyone from these servers and you'll see kills happen where the crosshair has not fully reached the player yet, slowing down the demo to 1/4 speed only highlights the synchronisation issues within the demo. There is also an issue with the crosshair seemingly pointing behind the player or off to the side in a demo if this is what you're referring to but it's only for quarter of a second or so.

          From the gameplay, there is nothing special about it, it doesn't reach the threshold to indicate supernatural play. If it is indistinguishable from normal gameplay then there is little evidence of cheats and a ban can't be given.

          The steam group does seem odd but there's no evidence of bxpanda himself cheating. The Vacbans of the other players were also roughly from a year ago. Also another thing to note is this quote from bxpanda himself although I doubt its relevance.

          Originally posted by BxPanda View Post

          I'm sorry but it's exactly as i said, you people are too dense to spot obvious cheaters as long as they pretend abit.
          If i really need to prove this to you i will come back on another account, when as much admins are on as possible, i'll buy aimware and i'll activate wh + legit aimbot, you'll see me play EXACTLY like b4n and npanopjkee, you'll have half the nosteamers calling cheats, and you'll have Roy in spectator looking at me saying 'looks legit' because you guys just can't spot that shit.
          I'm going to record all of it so afterwards y'all can all feel stupid.
          You just wait for that video to pop up somewhere on the forums, i don't even care if i have to buy cheats and cheat blatantly on your server to get you guys to understand how fucking easy it is dupe you into thinking i can't see people trough walls, and the aim, well i don't need to fake anyting b4n is using it very obviously so i think i can get away with ridiculously obvious settings anyways.
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            • #7
              well, case closed.
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