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  • Roy is a cheater, 2 demos.

    It's no surprise that everybody in the server suspects Roy of cheating, even some admins; he's always his team's top, he's always having a good day, he's always going to the right direction if he's the last guy alive in his team vs. 4 or more in the other team..

    Some of that might be traceable to practicing, gaining experience in general movement, pop-flashes, crosshair-placement, exploiting sound-ques etc..

    But ..

    With my experience in spotting cheaters, after watching his demos, it became so obvious that he's using an aim-lock cheat for improving his aim of course, but PRIMARILY as a wall-hacking tool, Which is what a lot of "pro-cheaters" do, they don't uses WH cus' it's hard to hide, they activate the aim-lock cheats periodically to know the position and the direction that the enemies might come from, which is what's so obvious in the following 2 demos..


    In this clip https://streamable.com/ve1oh, You can easily see the crosshair locking onto the first enemy behind the box "_Mercenarios29_" and then goes to the second target "Enigmatic2U" and hits him with a bullet even before the crosshair reaches him, you can tell by the blood spatter on the wall behind him, and then goes back to "_Mercenarios29_" and headshots him miraculously a mile away from what he actually is aiming at.

    In this clip, https://streamable.com/e8dj0, you can see his crosshair is all over the place and still managing to get body-shots and then an incredible headshot to "SamSvojbog".. That's NOT what a spray control looks like.

    You can see those 2 examples in every map he plays, repeated periodically throughout his gameplay, especially after a losing streak.
    Последний раз редактировалось DieYoung; 04.08.2017, 17:54.

  • #2
    Crisp, clean lock Bois!

    Seriously though, my aim is just well developed. 4/4.5 hours a day on average for 10 months, you can't not develop skills with this amount of effort put into it. For every good performance, you can find a greater amount of poor performances, and every minute spent cheating using third party software to help with your aim is a minute lost of practice. There is no incentive to cheat on these servers only a ban deterrent and a time penalty, so what would be the reason for me to cheat?

    ​​​​​​There is no way to win with proving the non existence of cheats and dispelling the paranoia people have about better players.

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    • #3
      I've just looked at the demos. You have got to be joking! I've uploaded better shots myself.

      https://streamable.com/z6dgj

      I looked over past gameplay to see what you mean about the aim lock. The looking at walls business "aim lock" I think you're referring to is what many players do when they hear noises coming from a particular direction. They look towards where the noise is coming from so they can use both ears to accurately determine where the enemy is. In a lot of situations though, it is most likely just a habit players have to make sure they have the muscle memory to shoot someone quickly enough if they make a noise. Obviously, this will look dodgy on a demo. In a better server with better players, I wouldn't pick up so many kills because good players won't forget to hold the shift key. If you see something dodgy in game, just ask!

      Late response because I wasn't subscribed to this thread. You should have possibly posted in this one

      https://se7enkills.net/gamezone/csgo...5%D0%B9/page38.

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      • #4
        Thanks for your reply..

        I just wanted to let you know that although that shot was impressive, uploading clips of yourself and taking pride in them doesn't 100% prove that you're not cheating, It could just be reverse psychology.

        In the 1st clip I posted two things happened that you ignored explaining, both of which have nothing to do with noise or habit.

        1. Your crosshair locking on the first target.. even though -coming out of this angle- you should have checked the common "Generator" spot first.
        2. Successfully hitting the 2 targets a whole 1/2 a second before your crosshair reaches them. (which is so obvious in the 2nd clip as well)





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        • #5
          It doesn't but it does prove I have invested the time to get a good aim. It shows I have less (zero imo) incentive to cheat my way to good play. It's difficult to find inarguable proof that something does not exist so trying to reassure you with other means is the next best thing.

          1. I don't check spots often enough and I die a lot as a result. I don't see any locking at all in the clip. I'm moving sideways as the crosshair hovers over the enemy, the crosshair doesn't actually move.
          2. You can't rely on a 32 tick demo, especially when it's slowed down. You see odd stuff like that. If you watch videos I've uploaded (videos of me playing in real time, not of demos), they're much smoother. Another reason may be that I also rely on the spray for some of the kills whilst missing the first few shots, this could result in you seeing me get a kill without the crosshair ever being over the enemy.
          Последний раз редактировалось Roy; 16.08.2017, 18:48. Причина: bold

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          • #6
            The 2 demos above show very clear that you are cheating, i dont understand that you even try to talk yourself out with such a proof. LOL
            Why alot of players accuse u of cheating ? They are all noobs and dont know how to play? I watched you play alot and you are defently using cheat.
            Why other good players not get accused? Or do you think we are all stupid and dont know how to spot a cheater?

            I hope they remove you as admin and get banned.

            You ruin the server , alot of players think same way i do but they are scared to say it because you are an admin.

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            • #7
              The 2 demos above show very clear that you are cheating, i dont understand that you even try to talk yourself out with such a proof. LOL
              Did we even watch the same video?

              Why other good players not get accused?
              Other good players do get accused and even banned for it. T4L, Npano, Vega, BxPanda9, Tilterino, etc. There is a certain threshold level of skill which gets you targeted with accusations on these servers. Who are these "other good players" anyway? The good ones have always had accusations and bans thrown their way.

              Or do you think we are all stupid and dont know how to spot a cheater?
              These are your words, not mine.

              You ruin the server , alot of players think same way i do but they are scared to say it because you are an admin.
              You can't simply bump off every good player on the server so that it's easier for you. You may as well play offline with bots if that's how you feel. We need more good players on the server, not less, but many don't seem to stick around for too long.


              I'm sorry I've made more progress within one year than you've made in 14. maybe you're just past it?

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              • #8
                progress ??? LOL . i agreed my reaction get worse with my age.... im also 41 and smoke alot of weed and have many bad days to.. and only play when gf go sleep!! but i still can see the difference between a cheater and a good player... and you are not a good player, just a cheater with some wh and aim.. you have 2 or 3 accounts because you worry about youre rank, on a NON SCURED server LOL and on steam you still GOLD NOVA rank ... that says it all about you

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                • #9
                  but i still can see the difference between a cheater and a good player
                  Evidently, this isn't true. If you post solid evidence, my rights will be removed straight away and I will be banned. So why not post some evidence?

                  you have 2 or 3 accounts because you worry about youre rank, on a NON SCURED server LOL and on steam you still GOLD NOVA rank ... that says it all about you
                  I have two accounts. One non-Steam account I used and collected 4/5 days worth of game time on the server before I bought the game on Steam, and my normal Steam account. I have sparingly used my non-Steam account recently as I've dropped from 79-80k to 75k points whilst playing Gun Game. You lose a lot of points quickly if you gather a lot of deaths. The non-Steam account has had some attention from the other administrators. 2 unjustly banned the account without even spectating whilst the third couldn't find any cheats. This is what is to be expected on these servers when a good player goes incognito. That's why all the good players have been banned at least once. I ask again, who are the "other good players" you talk about? All the good players I know have received a ban.

                  I have 29 wins and I'm GN4, what does this matter? I spend too much time on these community servers and I don't enjoy competitive play. Why berate someone for not doing something they don't enjoy?

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                  • #10
                    Сообщение от Roy Посмотреть сообщение

                    I have 29 wins and I'm GN4, what does this matter? I spend too much time on these community servers and I don't enjoy competitive play. Why berate someone for not doing something they don't enjoy?
                    So, you care so much about your points and rank in a non-valve-secured server, that nobody cares about, more than your steam rank; which is what the whole game is about?

                    I know you could say, the game is about having the most fun regardless.. But you have to admit that it's kinda weird, that you have the passion and dedication to level-up and gain points ... BUT not on steam's servers!!

                    I mean, even if you don't enjoy it, with your average -not even outstanding- performance in the server you could easily rank up to at least "LEM" in steam, even if you were paired with bad/average players!!

                    You gotta see my point here.

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                    • #11
                      Сообщение от DieYoung Посмотреть сообщение

                      So, you care so much about your points and rank in a non-valve-secured server, that nobody cares about, more than your steam rank; which is what the whole game is about?

                      You gotta see my point here.
                      The community server is casual and you can drop in and out at any time, the points are secondary. But, you are right, I don't care about my mm rank as I don't play mm.

                      I know you could say, the game is about having the most fun regardless.. But you have to admit that it's kinda weird, that you have the passion and dedication to level-up and gain points ... BUT not on steam's servers!!
                      Gaining points on these servers is easy. Ranking up takes a lot of time and energy for me and it's just not what I want to spend my time doing.

                      I mean, even if you don't enjoy it, with your average -not even outstanding- performance in the server you could easily rank up to at least "LEM" in steam, even if you were paired with bad/average players!!
                      Thanks. How many wins do you reckon it'll take to rank up from GN4 to LEM? I've only ranked up twice in 19 wins. I think I've just had bad experiences in matchmaking.

                      I see your point how odd it is, but how you conclude with a cheating accusation I will never know.

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